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SAN FRANCISCO &#8211; Internet video leader YouTube Inc.&#8217;s losses have been overblown by some analysts, but corporate parent Google Inc. doesn&#8217;t mind the misperception, according to a study being released Wednesday.
Technology consultants at RampRate Inc. project YouTube&#8217;s operating losses this year at $174.2 million — far below the $470.6 million estimated by Credit [...]


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<p>SAN FRANCISCO &#8211; Internet video leader YouTube Inc.&#8217;s losses have been overblown by some analysts, but corporate parent Google Inc. doesn&#8217;t mind the misperception, according to a study being released Wednesday.</p>
<p>Technology consultants at RampRate Inc. project YouTube&#8217;s operating losses this year at $174.2 million — far below the $470.6 million estimated by Credit Suisse analysts Spencer Wang and Kenneth Sena in an April research report that became a hot topic on Wall Street and the Internet.</p>
<p>The dueling forecasts are the latest twist in a guessing game that has intrigued investors since Google bought YouTube for $1.76 billion in late 2006.<br />
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<p>Although YouTube has become an even more popular diversion since the Google deal, it still hasn&#8217;t proven it can make money.</p>
<p>Google has acknowledged YouTube isn&#8217;t profitable, but has refused to provide any specifics, leaving it to outsiders to figure out.</p>
<p>And the number crunching usually leads to inaccurate conclusions, according to Google&#8217;s chief financial officer, Patrick Pichette.</p>
<p>&#8220;Most people build outside views of what it costs us to do things, and often they exaggerate,&#8221; Pichette said in an interview with the Canadian magazine Maclean&#8217;s shortly after Credit Suisse released its YouTube report.</p>
<p>But Google has little incentive to set the record straight about YouTube&#8217;s actual losses, according to RampRate, which specializes in managing technology costs.</p>
<p>RampRate reasons the perception of large losses at YouTube helps Google negotiate more favorable contracts with movie, TV and music studios licensing their video. What&#8217;s more, copyright owners also are less likely to go to court in pursuit of unpaid royalties and damages if they believe YouTube is a big money loser, according to RampRate&#8217;s thesis.</p>
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<p>&#8220;Google is no doubt thrilled to let YouTube be known as a financial folly,&#8221; RampRate&#8217;s report said.</p>
<p>YouTube spokesman Aaron Zamost wouldn&#8217;t comment directly on RampRate&#8217;s report, but he stressed that Google has been running ads near or in millions of videos in an effort to curb YouTube&#8217;s losses. He also said Google had little incentive to magnify its losses because YouTube shares revenue with its business partners.</p>
<p>&#8220;We want our partners to do well, because when they succeed, we succeed,&#8221; Zamost said.</p>
<p>Although it has been cutting costs to cope with the U.S. recession, Google can still afford to subsidize YouTube with the money it makes through its search engine. Google earned $4.2 billion last year and started this year with a first-quarter profit of $1.4 billion.</p>
<p>Analysts generally concur with Credit Suisse&#8217;s $241 million estimate for YouTube&#8217;s revenue this year. RampRate adopted Credit Suisse&#8217;s revenue projections in its calculations, as well as Credit Suisse&#8217;s estimate that YouTube will spend about $332 million on video acquisition, advertising commissions and general overhead this year.</p>
<p>The big mystery is how much it costs Google to store and distribute the 20 hours of video that are sent to YouTube every minute.</p>
<p>After conferring with industry experts, Wang and Sena concluded Google will spend nearly $380 million on Internet bandwith, computer hardware, software and data centers for YouTube. RampRate believes the figure is about $83 million.</p>
<p>That lower estimate presumes Google has negotiated moneysaving deals with broadband providers and other behind-the-scenes players that move data through the Internet. RampRate also believes Google&#8217;s own propriety technology has helped hold down YouTube&#8217;s costs, an idea that Pichette endorsed in his Maclean&#8217;s interview.</p>
<p>&#8220;When people run models, they generally use standard industry pricing for bandwidth, storage, but we build everything from scratch,&#8221; Pichette said at the time. &#8220;So we know our cost position but nobody else does.&#8221;</p>
<p>Credit Suisse stands by its April estimates, said Sena, one of the analysts who wrote the April report. &#8220;We feel very comfortable with what we came up with,&#8221; he said Tuesday.</p>


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